how are we to interpret these two obamas? >> i really believe that this can be explained in a nutshell. to understand barack obama, one has to understand, he is a man of the left. leftism, as i wrote in my column is the most dynamic religion in the world, more than christianity, more dynamic than islam. his trinity. christians have the father, the son and the holy ghost. the left has race, gender class. that's how your kids will learn life in college. that's the prism through which he sees the world. he is honest to leftism. while there is demagoguery here, no question -- he is true to his faith. >> wlook, i'm a liberal democrat. the point is here -- not that he is left or right. the point here is that we know what he is in these tapes now. he revealed himself-- >>> was it the real obam in 2008 or this other -- >> oh, i wrote that piece in the "los angeles times," exposing his philly speech as being the race man. he focuses everything about race. [overlapping dialogue] >> that was also class. that's my point. >> sean: he is s